AVC Editing? Your main page states that your newest build of VFW includes the ability to "Play and edit all VfW AVC files with no extra software!"
however, I cannot find an editing extention for the program. could you please explain? or did you mean that it adds support for virtualdub?
also, can this edit x264 files? and what quality does your vfw avc generate compared to x264? (note, i am running a heavily overclocked core duo system, so encoding time is simply not an issue for me)
thanks!
DeathTheSheep- 01-23-2007
Yes, virtualdub editing and all other VfW editing tools (just about all video editors).
It uses the x264 core--hence its name, x264 VfW :) Thus, the quality is virtually identical, and often encodes faster than its CLI counterpart, but you already said speed isn't an issue, so anyway.
As long as you stick to the guide and follow the quality tips, you should achieve much better quality than using the standard settings in "standard" x264.
Yes, the decoder fully supports x264 and all other (preferably non-interlaced) AVC streams for editing--as long as those streams are encoded in VfW mode (if they are not, demux them into an AVI or OGM or VfW-MKV and then they'll edit nicely).
SpeakerForTDead- 01-23-2007
ok, somethings not working, here are the exact details:
encoded a clip via megui; in case it matters, it uses your x264 guide and maxes out the quality, with a few tweaks by me personally -- so, assume all the bells and whistles are turned on
clip was encoded to .mp4 (this was a while ago, otherwise i'd do it as raw and enc it to .avi and try that); the only tool i could find to "demux them into an AVI or OGM or VfW-MKV" was mkvmerge. i muxed the *video only* to prevent other compatibility errors.
installed ffdshow (clean install) with all options enabled. opened virtualdubmod (virtualdub to my knowledge does not support .mkv); checked to make sure x264 showed up in compression window; it did. opened the .mkv, and this error occured: (paraphrased)
MKV: A frame of stream 1 (at xxxx ms) had only a forward reference (maybe broken file).
/*repeat this many times, like at least 100*/
MKV: Video frames seems to be weirdly ordered.
MKV: The video may have a variable framerate. If so we strongly advise you to use another tool to safely process your file.
Couldn't locate decompressor for format /*ascii garbage*/ (unkown). VirtualDub requires a Video for Windows (VFW) compatible codec to decompress video. DirectShow codecs, such as those used by Windows Media Player, are not suitable. Only 'Direct stream copy' is available for this video.
//end quote
sorry for the long post, just making sure i have all the info in here. and the bad grammar and misspellings are straight from the warning window.
so anyways, i click "ok" and it doesnt show any video. just a blank virtualdubmod screen (although it lets me use the slider at the bottom, and even keyframe, but scenechange detect doesnt work).
is my problem:
A) mkvmux does not make a suitable .mkv container
B) i misunderstood something and need to do something other than muxing it to .mkv
C) thats a funky problem, i did everything right, and its a mystery
D) i need something other than virtualdubmod
E) something else
if A or B, if you could point me to a tool that would work (i need something that supports subtitles, chapters, and multi audio so i dont have to manually cut the other streams after video editing). if D, i just need to know a program that works for it; otherwise, please help
sorry i'm taking so long, im finally making the switch from xvid to x264, and after ~2 weeks of -*test*-('")coding literally hundreds of different clips, i realized i couldnt edit them!
btw, i can benchmark coding if you want, and am working on a method of encoding "The Shield" episodes (Disclaimer: this is for my own personal backup of a dvd that i own, and do not lend out to anyone), which are tricky since (in case you havent seen them) there is a *thick* grain filter slapped onto the show. i mean thick. like static almost. so obviously the whole deblocking thing fubars it. just tryin to help since youre helping me out.
DeathTheSheep- 01-25-2007
1. YAMB has the ability to extract a raw video stream (and the audio).
2. Mux the extracted streams into an AVI (use AVC2AVI for the video first, then mux in the audio with AVI-mux GUI).
This should work for all MP4 files. If you just need the video, only do the video part above.
AAC audio causes problems sometimes, so if the audio is AAC (and not ogg or mp3 or such things), transcode it before muxing it into the AVI.
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