Will the new x264 VfW's include a decoder also?
yes, im using it right now
i tried a few things im now trying with deblocking with both on 1 also increased the bitrate abit but its a big movie so encoding takes long total about 24 hours for both passes.I asume ur encoding with gordianknot, if so, then just clip ur movie and just encode about 1-2 mins of video, it should take less than 10 mins, can you post screenshots and more info , like the size and bitrate of the video, and your settings, i might be able to help, im currently working on this one one which has ur exact same problem and i've got it to look pretty good
ThaNeko- 01-26-2008
think is with every encode its a different part of the movie. and its not reallu visable when you just make a screen shot cos most of the duration of the movie is drawn and some parts are moving
i didnt check my last encode but will try to tomorrow.
i got most settings of the guide the same. i used different bitrate 1000+ i tried its about a 830 mb or so at 1200 bitrate i use the hiest settings unhex etc.
BugMaster- 01-28-2008
Version 5_736bm and 5_736bm_AQ_0.47 of x264vfw
Changes:
- Added colorspace conversion (removed from x264 svn-733)
- Added support for "tesa" motion estimation
- x264 core updated to svn-736
ThaNeko- 01-28-2008
nice a new release going to try that tomorrow.
ld006- 01-31-2008
well..this are the settings that got rid of (98% of blocking in a "live" movie (not animated) in an encode I did, it had heavy blocks on dark areas or scenes with almost no motion or no motion at all
try this and tell me if u see any improvements
bitarte around 800kb/s
I-frame boost= 35
b-frame reduction= 10
bitrate variability= 30
min qp= 4
max qp= 31
max qp step= 5
scene cut threshold= 20
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all partitions exceot 4x4 intra
max ref b-frames= 5
mv prediction= auto
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6 RDO
umh
range 32
max ref frames, 3 mixed refs
trellis 2
deblocking -1, -1
and AQ at defaults
ThaNeko- 01-31-2008
i'll use those settings i will only use a higher bitrate 1200 and use 7 instead of 6rdo.
i also shall update to the la-*test*-('") version from bugmaster
and see how it goes.
and i use uneven -multi hex
ThaNeko- 01-31-2008
Bug master what are those short names in the methode.
dia = diamond search
hex = hex..
umh = uneven multi hex
esa = ??
tesa = ??
and what is the best to use then ? diamond is to heavy and takes to long next best is uneven-multi-hex?
got another problem i got all settings the same in pass 1 and pass 2 but i get a error :
different number of b-frames then 1st pass (5 vs 3)
i had max consecutive 5 and max ref frames 3 but it didnt want to encode it i had that on both passes when i change max consecutive to 3 on both passes it started the encode and its encoding now
BugMaster- 01-31-2008
Bug master what are those short names in the methode.
dia = diamond search
hex = hex..
umh = uneven multi hex
esa = ??
tesa = ??
and what is the best to use then ? diamond is to heavy and takes to long next best is uneven-multi-hex?
They all described in hint for this option:
- dia: diamond search, radius 1 (fast)
- hex: hexagonal search, radius 2
- umh: uneven multi-hexagon search
- esa: exhaustive search
- tesa: hadamard exhaustive search (slow)
I prefer to use "umh" but if you want addition quality increase (about +1 PSNR) at cost of speed I suggest use "tesa" (its quality greatly depend on range; I usually use default range = 16). As for "esa" it also slower than "umh" but don't lead to significant quality increase.
got another problem i got all settings the same in pass 1 and pass 2 but i get a error :
different number of b-frames then 1st pass (5 vs 3)
i had max consecutive 5 and max ref frames 3 but it didnt want to encode it i had that on both passes when i change max consecutive to 3 on both passes it started the encode and its encoding now
Are you sure you use same settings at pass 1 and pass 2? Due to this message I think not. You use 3 B-frames at pass 1 and 5 B-frames at pass 2 and that is why you get this error.
ThaNeko- 01-31-2008
yea i triple checked it that i used the same settings.
when i like i said put the max consecutive from 5 to 3 on pass 1 and pass 2 than it starts with the encode i have max ref frames on 3.
BugMaster- 01-31-2008
ThaNeko
If this problem is repeatable and not depends on source (so I can repeat it with my sources) than I need version of x264vfw (also standard or experimental) and full set of options for pass 1 and pass 2 (would be good if you can provide them as two command lines; or as registry files of HKCU\Software\GNU\x264).
P.S. Do anybody other experience such problem?
ThaNeko- 01-31-2008
i used the one of 28 jan 2008 i also tried the experiment one of 30 jan
the settings are in the screen shot in the next post
i only used a other bitrate of 1200 and method 7. i only tried it on 1 source i use gnot :)
the problem is repeatable for me here. i can make screen shots of my settings and all and the error. i shall add those later because im not at home at i will be in 2 hours or so then i will make the screen shots and post them too. i got pass 1 and pass 2 exactly the same.
ThaNeko- 01-31-2008
as i said a screen shot
i put them together so its easier :)
i tried to put the method on tesa and didn't change a thing and it started to encode. so so far i only get it with what is in the screen shot. when i have method on umh.
Igor rus- 01-31-2008
Use as referenses will not be for 5 B frames, when referense frames max = 3!
3<5! 5 B frames can not 5 referense B frames, but option "Use as referenses" its realized!
:)
Fuf! sorry for my english
ThaNeko- 01-31-2008
so max consecutive cant be more then max ref frames?
it only did that on umh
i tried it on tesa and it started the encode.
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