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Barough- 01-24-2008

Will the new x264 VfW's include a decoder also?

ld006- 01-25-2008

Will the new x264 VfW's include a decoder also? yes, im using it right now i tried a few things im now trying with deblocking with both on 1 also increased the bitrate abit but its a big movie so encoding takes long total about 24 hours for both passes.I asume ur encoding with gordianknot, if so, then just clip ur movie and just encode about 1-2 mins of video, it should take less than 10 mins, can you post screenshots and more info , like the size and bitrate of the video, and your settings, i might be able to help, im currently working on this one one which has ur exact same problem and i've got it to look pretty good

ThaNeko- 01-26-2008

think is with every encode its a different part of the movie. and its not reallu visable when you just make a screen shot cos most of the duration of the movie is drawn and some parts are moving i didnt check my last encode but will try to tomorrow. i got most settings of the guide the same. i used different bitrate 1000+ i tried its about a 830 mb or so at 1200 bitrate i use the hiest settings unhex etc.

BugMaster- 01-28-2008

Version 5_736bm and 5_736bm_AQ_0.47 of x264vfw Changes: - Added colorspace conversion (removed from x264 svn-733) - Added support for "tesa" motion estimation - x264 core updated to svn-736

ThaNeko- 01-28-2008

nice a new release going to try that tomorrow.

ld006- 01-31-2008

well..this are the settings that got rid of (98% of blocking in a "live" movie (not animated) in an encode I did, it had heavy blocks on dark areas or scenes with almost no motion or no motion at all try this and tell me if u see any improvements bitarte around 800kb/s I-frame boost= 35 b-frame reduction= 10 bitrate variability= 30 min qp= 4 max qp= 31 max qp step= 5 scene cut threshold= 20 ----------------------------------- all partitions exceot 4x4 intra max ref b-frames= 5 mv prediction= auto --------------------------------- 6 RDO umh range 32 max ref frames, 3 mixed refs trellis 2 deblocking -1, -1 and AQ at defaults

ThaNeko- 01-31-2008

i'll use those settings i will only use a higher bitrate 1200 and use 7 instead of 6rdo. i also shall update to the la-*test*-('") version from bugmaster and see how it goes. and i use uneven -multi hex

ThaNeko- 01-31-2008

Bug master what are those short names in the methode. dia = diamond search hex = hex.. umh = uneven multi hex esa = ?? tesa = ?? and what is the best to use then ? diamond is to heavy and takes to long next best is uneven-multi-hex? got another problem i got all settings the same in pass 1 and pass 2 but i get a error : different number of b-frames then 1st pass (5 vs 3) i had max consecutive 5 and max ref frames 3 but it didnt want to encode it i had that on both passes when i change max consecutive to 3 on both passes it started the encode and its encoding now

BugMaster- 01-31-2008

Bug master what are those short names in the methode. dia = diamond search hex = hex.. umh = uneven multi hex esa = ?? tesa = ?? and what is the best to use then ? diamond is to heavy and takes to long next best is uneven-multi-hex? They all described in hint for this option: - dia: diamond search, radius 1 (fast) - hex: hexagonal search, radius 2 - umh: uneven multi-hexagon search - esa: exhaustive search - tesa: hadamard exhaustive search (slow) I prefer to use "umh" but if you want addition quality increase (about +1 PSNR) at cost of speed I suggest use "tesa" (its quality greatly depend on range; I usually use default range = 16). As for "esa" it also slower than "umh" but don't lead to significant quality increase. got another problem i got all settings the same in pass 1 and pass 2 but i get a error : different number of b-frames then 1st pass (5 vs 3) i had max consecutive 5 and max ref frames 3 but it didnt want to encode it i had that on both passes when i change max consecutive to 3 on both passes it started the encode and its encoding now Are you sure you use same settings at pass 1 and pass 2? Due to this message I think not. You use 3 B-frames at pass 1 and 5 B-frames at pass 2 and that is why you get this error.

ThaNeko- 01-31-2008

yea i triple checked it that i used the same settings. when i like i said put the max consecutive from 5 to 3 on pass 1 and pass 2 than it starts with the encode i have max ref frames on 3.

BugMaster- 01-31-2008

ThaNeko If this problem is repeatable and not depends on source (so I can repeat it with my sources) than I need version of x264vfw (also standard or experimental) and full set of options for pass 1 and pass 2 (would be good if you can provide them as two command lines; or as registry files of HKCU\Software\GNU\x264). P.S. Do anybody other experience such problem?

ThaNeko- 01-31-2008

i used the one of 28 jan 2008 i also tried the experiment one of 30 jan the settings are in the screen shot in the next post i only used a other bitrate of 1200 and method 7. i only tried it on 1 source i use gnot :) the problem is repeatable for me here. i can make screen shots of my settings and all and the error. i shall add those later because im not at home at i will be in 2 hours or so then i will make the screen shots and post them too. i got pass 1 and pass 2 exactly the same.

ThaNeko- 01-31-2008

as i said a screen shot i put them together so its easier :) i tried to put the method on tesa and didn't change a thing and it started to encode. so so far i only get it with what is in the screen shot. when i have method on umh.

Igor rus- 01-31-2008

Use as referenses will not be for 5 B frames, when referense frames max = 3! 3<5! 5 B frames can not 5 referense B frames, but option "Use as referenses" its realized! :) Fuf! sorry for my english

ThaNeko- 01-31-2008

so max consecutive cant be more then max ref frames? it only did that on umh i tried it on tesa and it started the encode.

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